I am very much interested in this project to save a potential Tiger from the mud of the Seine. It looks like they took the mgs with them when they abandoned it. It will then be time for Calvados researchers to take an interest in the fate of other tanks, which also fell in the Seine on the side of Duclair. Mark Felton Productions does not condone written attacks, insults, racism, sexism, extremism, violence or otherwise questionable comments or material in the 'Comments' section, and reserves the right to delete any comment violating this rule or to block any poster from the channel.Credits: YouTube Creative Commons; WikiCommons; Google Commons; Mark Felton Productions; Pudelek, Kim Holgar Kelting, BjoertvedtSources: 'World War II in Review, German Fighting Vehicles No. Those that slipped underneath the water were preserved. Working models live in the repair hangar. The main object of these tank hunts is the armoured vehicles that became mired in marshes, many of which fell off bridges into the soft ground. They find help in archives and from older residents, some of whom were children during the war. Reports from the German Naval Command did not offer any additional details on the exact point where the ship sank. by Patton_M47 Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:01 pm, Post 501, was captured in North Africa in 1943. A converted barn is dedicated to the 1964 film Zulu, with original posters as well as spears, shields and. possible, but they just found bits so far so well just hafta wait, or get yourself knee deep in some soviet marsh =). The recovery work is scheduled to begin later this year. All our tanks are our favourites, even the German ones, says Mikalutski. After a long fight, the Soviet forces had to retreat, with tanks ordered to drive through the forests to avoid air attack. Mark Felton Productions 1.78M subscribers For many years its been rumoured that a German Tiger Tank lurks unrecovered in a French river. The tankmen tried to pull it out, asked the local villagers for help by putting logs under the caterpillar treads. After a struggle between a local re-enactment group and the local Council, author & historian Gary Sterne the owner of the Maisy Batteries in Grandcamp-Maisy, Normandy the regional Governor of Yvelines has now confirmed (for the second time) that the tank must have a new home. Panzer VI Tiger tank & KV-1S tank (destroyed) Zak Crawford. An avid video game player, meme distributor, and your comment section moderator all in one. Not every fighting machine can be sold. Agreement must be reached with the French Army Services to take on the job of deactivating the ammunition during the excavation. Some Russian archaeologists were digging around Leningrad. Shortly afterwards Marburg hit a mine too and started to sink! In particular we made sure that the council also informed everyone including the French department of DRAC back in 2017. They are concerned in case they explode and cause injury to local people or a passing motorist and the risk is one they were not willing to let continue any longer. The recovery project already has the written agreement of the German Ambassador to France, the German Army and the French MoD and it is being financed from a number of sources including a US D-day Veteran and a US Veterans Association. With the fear of an attack, and following reports that an allied submarine had been seen in the area, the Italian Navy, the Regia Marina, sentthe submarine Menotti commanded by lieutenant commander Ugo Gelli to patrol the area south of Zakynthos (Zante) island. The Panther wasn't the problem just the circumstances around it. One day, some people asked him to find and lift up a BT-7 tank, that had been stuck in the marshes since 1942. Marburg, just below 7,564 tons, was built in 1928 for the company North German Lloyd. Among the best known tanks of the Second World War, the German Tiger and the American Sherman tanks have since become icons of armored warfare and the subject of many a heated argument between enthusiasts of the subject. Sterne stated: The turret is from Tiger No 124 of the 101st Heavy Panzer Battalion and the rare Zimmerit (anti-magnetic paste) and camouflage colouring was unique to this tank. This is a photo of a King Tiger Tank turret in France. It seems that Marburg ended up at a depth of 300 meters, broken into two pieces. He can talk about the history and its chain of events for hours and is 100% legit fun at parties. by Patton_M47 Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:46 pm, Post The Hotckiss H35 tank restoration is a Saumur French Tank Museum project. It was actually Gelbbraun RAL 8020 for DAK. The KV-1 was a well-regarded vehicle, almost impervious to anti-tank weapons of the day; and it was armed with a powerful 76mm gun that could knock out any tank in German service. We want to create.. Stronk Soviet vehicle would have started. When working for the club, they sold a German armored vehicle, an SdKfz 252, to a collector in Britain, and a Soviet heavy tank IS-2 went to a private collection in Latvia. Now Vladimir works as the chief mechanic and renovator in a historic and cultural complex called the Stalin Line near the countrys capital, Minsk. The Yakushevs use a rotation scheme. Edit don_apple: topic moved from "General Discussion" to "Off-topic", since it is not related to the game itself. It did not arrive 4/8 Poor Reliability. [3] It was classified as a French Monument Historique in December 1975.[4]. tiger, (Panthera tigris), largest member of the cat family (Felidae), rivaled only by the lion (Panthera leo) in strength and ferocity. By May 21st, 1941 the Germans had concluded the invasion of mainland Greece, codenamed Operation Marita and were in the process of attacking the island of Crete, with an airborne assault that was initiated the day before, on May 20th, codenamed Operation Merkur. In the case of the first Tigers (at Leningrad) it is already known that they used gelbbraun (RAL 8020) and panzer grey (RAL 7021). One of the most feared weapons of World War II, the King Tiger tank donned an almost impenetrable front armor. A tank found in a barn. Karelas says to WW2 Wrecks andpierrekosmidis.blogspot.com: I was examining a photo from the Italian State Archives (Archivio Centrale Dello Stato) of a burning ship near the Greek coast. Four planes, seven gliders and a US tank are already on the hunting board of the association. The Tiger tank was one of the most feared weapons of World War Two. Now the renovated tank is in the Belarusian State Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk. The damage done to the turret by this new paint is immeasurable and it has literally changed the history of the vehicle. Alarge contingent of the 2nd Panzer Division was loaded in the port of Patras aboard the transport ships Marburg and Kybfels, with final destination the port of Taranto in Italy. A senior lawyer for Yvelines Council Mr Kauffmann stated all decisions of the County Council pass the control of legality of the prefecture and Mr Bedier and DRAC (French Department of Cultural Affiairs) publicly agreed to be bound by the Prefets final decision. Diorama. The Vimoutiers Tiger tank is one of only seven known intact Tiger I tanks remaining in the world. by Deadeye Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:07 pm, Post But the tank renovators do not play favourites. Probably would have converted it to a tractor, too. 124 remains partially buried under a road in France. Between the 12 and 20 August 1944 the Allies launched an offensive to close the Falaise pocket at Chambois, from where remnants of the German army were attempting to escape. The whole project was therefore re-investigated by the Regional Governors office which has spent almost 6 months re-looking into the affair from a legal perspective. Probobly one of the most well known Tiger II photos with two rolling through the French streets. For the next 30 years, however, the tank remained rusting in its roadside ditch, retrieving it being difficult due to the tank's considerable size and weight. Originally resting in a ditch by the side of the road, it was bought by the local commune and put on display in 1975. HMS Abdiel went down in history as the first mining operation in very deep waters, which surprised the Axis powers in the Mediterranean. Huge battles were fought, leaving the land strewn with dead bodies and ruined machines. Amazing story looking forward to hearing more in due course, good luck in this search. side by the edge of the road before it was dragged into the bomb crater. Then they wander through forests and marshes searching for machines. Ive dug with these people. The first World War brought new innovations to warfare. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. Putins grandfather pissed on the Tiger and it blew up. This is not what the Yvelines Council wanted to see happen at the side of the road.. Also, call the donkey, this is my first time to be first. Military Vehicles. One story says that one of the American bombs caused an enormous crater in the road. One Czech vehicle, now at the history of engineering in Tolyatti in Russia, was built from three separate vehicles. The Fontenay-Saint-Pere King Tiger will be classified as a historic monument as soon as it is dug out of the ground. The second story These three projects will cost a lot of money. However, once a part that could be identified was found, the tank was identified as a Tiger. Even the lighthouse that still exists today was there! The tank is a PanzerkampfwagenVITigerAusf. The tanks were located inside a military area, on the Bardufoss Air Force Base. Mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56 gun and thick armor, the Tiger proved formidable in combat and forced the Allies to alter their armor tactics and develop new weapons to counter it. modle de pv d'assemble gnrale constitutive d'une sarl. A group of enthusiasts of the second world war is active to clarify a mystery: is there a German tank at the bottom of the Seine, near the Jeanne dArc Bridge? www.maisybattery.com will post more details in the future. Absolutely not. The Siberian, or Amur, tiger (P. tigris altaica) is the largest . The turret was first lifted off to reduce the overall weight and the chassis was then pulled and pushed out of the roadside ditch by bulldozers. In Ouistreham (Calvados), the Atlantic Wall team aims to create an archaeological museum of the Second World War. The turret of Tiger 124 was blown off and the barrel was removed leaving the body in the road and the turret in the ditch nearby. Me too, I have seen then first hand, that is a joke in most cases. Tanks are roaring and shooting, though thankfully all the ammunition is blank. Many tanks lie in the vast expanses of swamp and forest in Belarus (Credit: Denis Aldokhin), There is a different problem in the summer. 1,347 were built between August 1942 and August 1944. A powerful blast threw the turret several metres away and it drowned in marshes but survived to this day. by eric21 Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:44 pm, Post The most probable reason why the Italians did not warn their German alliesof the minefield is that during that time, their relations went sour, the cooperation between the fascists and the nazis in Patras was strained and consultation between the two sides was virtually non-existent. A 78-year-old German man was hiding a full-size tank in his basement Paul Szoldra Published April 02, 2018 09:37:02 Plenty of people collect World War II memorabilia and small trinkets, but a 78-year-old man in Germany was found with something much bigger: A 44-ton tank. Just ask, SS will gladly ban each every one of you donkey lovers. It could fly across bridges.. A tank crew stood just as much chance of dying from the exhaust and heat produced by the . Probably will end up in a museum one day (hopefully). [1] The tank, numbered as 231 (according to the information display board next to the tank), belonged to the 2nd Company of the 102nd SS Heavy Panzer Battalion (although there is some debate surrounding exactly which unit this tank was attached to, with some sources attaching it to the 503rd Heavy Panzer Battalion).[2]. These machines became the donors for the tank. A decision was made that the tank and the bomb crater would be covered in the village of Montgison. The KV-1 has joined an array of tanks at the Stalin Line museum restored by the team (Credit: Anton Skyba), When you have a good job, you dont need holidays, they joke. by DEERE317 Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:11 am, Post Volunteers can frequently get ride along during these demos. in time to participate in the battle of the Falaise Pocket. The vehicle's chassis number is currently unknown. On May 21st, 1941, at 9:00 in the morning, Kybfels and Marburg were being loaded with vehicles and artillery of the 2nd Armoured Division, with the port of Taranto as their destination. Is it me or for some reason do those seem to mostly be Russian? Tiger in the French Tank Museum in Saumur. So now were dedicating a series to help you escape. When this new owner attempted to start scrapping the tank, starting first with its turret, the local people of Vimoutiers decided to preserve the historic combat vehicle and purchased it for 6,000 Francs to keep as a historical monument. Beastiality is pretty common on internet, no? It is not easy to sell them abroad. Military Photos. FS15 & FS19 Platinum Edition PC (and War Thunder, Gaijin is way worse than GIANTS ever has been accused of being). The Tiger wasn't Germany's first monster tank. So they rush to Rouen where they hope to cross the Seine. A local group had been campaigning against the tank being dug up and at first they wanted it to stay in the ground and then later they wanted it to become a monument at the roadside. The second team, an amateurs club called Poisk, which is where Vladimir and Mikalutski started to learn their trade almost 20 years ago. Local scrap dealers purchased this hardware off the landowner (on whose property the hardware was on) and scrapped the vehicles. Some years ago Vladimir Yakushev worked as a collective farm engineer. On 21 August 1944, along with other German tanks (Panthers, Panzer IIIs and IVs and other Tigers) and a variety of military vehicles, the Tiger was heading out of the Falaise pocket to a fuel dump at the Chateau de l'Horloge in Ticheville during the final days of the Battle of Normandy. Some Russian archaeologists were digging around Leningrad looking for bodies of soldiers that went missing during the war, to re-bury with proper military honours. Tiger tank in Vimoutiers is a German tank of the World War II, exposed on the outskirts of the city of Vimoutiers in the Orne district in Normandy. Whilst in combat near the small French town of Fontenay St. Pere Tiger 124 commanded by Fritz Zahnner was retreating into a wooded area along a road when it came under attack by US fighter-bombers. Research: George Karelas and Gerasimos Sotiropoulos|Photos: As creditedText: Pierre Kosmidis To find and make a German is such joy," he says. Heres the full video, for those that want to see more. Neubaufahrzeugs come ashore in Oslo, Norway in 1940. From Italy, they would be carried by rail to the Eastern Front, for Operation Barbarossa. which is WRONG, you mad that the ruskies found your tiger number 1? This first Tiger was made in May of 1942, drove around for thousands of kilometers (not without numerous . Another example of poor Nazi a workmanship. Leaving the Normandy front, they think they can retreat to the East. Tiger tanks are some of the most iconic vehicles of World War II and a powerful tool of the Nazis (or those who captured them). The KV-1 sports the names of Kolobanovas crew, who held off a German armoured advance in 1941 (Credit: Anton Skyba). All four were knocked out. The ground around the tanks has to be drained before they can be lifted out (Credit: Denis Aldokhin). </p> <p>Roll Deep Lyrics, The other is a work-in-progress, a response to the zeitgeist, a reflection of the radical decor and architectural developments that preceded . Mr Sterne stated It has been a long time of negotiation and it was important that we spoke to everybody who could have an interest. You reach the place and then you have to crawl back. Now the KV-1 differs from an original vehicle in only a handful of parts. This is a rare historical item and we have given firm assurances that it will remain in France on public display.. You take the idle sprocket front jockey wheel from a T-34 launched in 1942 to put it on the model launched in 1941. But they were always suffering from breakdowns and were in constant need of servicing. The Vimoutiers Tiger Tank has legal protection as it is officially classified as a historic monument and may not be sold or given away. Almost 20 soldiers struggled to remove the tank from a villa on Thursday in a wealthy suburb of Kiel in northern Germany, after police searching the property discovered the tank, a torpedo, an. The Yakushevs are not the only tank hunters in Belarus. lol. The state military and industrial committee donated a self-propelled gun with similar parts, and the Belarussian Railways presented a traction engine converted from a self-propelled gun. The final version of the tank weighed 54. Abandoned. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. [3] About sixty German armoured vehicles were abandoned in the vicinity of Vimoutiers. All opinions and comments should contribute to the dialogue. There is a bigger problem. The tank's crew abandoned the tank and set off two explosive charges on the vehicle, which left the tank's turret immobilized and damaged the engine decking, leaving distinct cracking on the thick armoured plates. The truth may be more amazing than the legend!Sunken Tigers in Seine: https://www.forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=118695Tiger Tank in the Seine: http://museegrandbunker.com/en/willy-feys-tiger-tank-in-the-seineDr. The American troops trying to liberate the towns of Mantois and Vexin underwent six days The tracks are the field tracks (the Tiger displayed in Saumur has road tracks). The current camouflage scheme does not reproduce that originally found on the tank, but was done by a local volunteer who restored the tank[8]. As one of the last things he did before moving on to a more senior Government post Prefet Morvan repeated his authorisation giving the tank to Mr Sterne for display in Normandy and he confirmed that this tank will not become a State claimed trophy of war. Heavier protective armour required even larger tank hulls to carry the weight and mount the bigger guns. 25 is probably a reference to the factory it was produced in, or failing that the day and month it was produced (wither February the 5th or May 2nd), and the next four numbers (0001) are the actual production order. The Vimoutiers Tiger tank is a World War II German Tiger I tank on outdoor display at Vimoutiers in the Orne Department, Normandy, France. under a French road to the North West of Paris. The performance in the open air shows an episode from the life of a Belarusian village during World War Two. A Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake nearJohvi, Estonia. The Tiger I was a German heavy tank that saw extensive service during World War II. Woras pls, you browse internet since yesterday ? A number of collectors have already made offers. Technically they were around St.Petersburg (it was called Leningrad back in Soviet times, unless theyre referring to the Leningrad Oblast and not the city itself). 8.45m (27ft 9in) (gun facing forward), This page was last edited on 13 October 2022, at 15:40. The turret by this new paint is immeasurable and it drowned in marshes but survived to day. Create.. Stronk Soviet vehicle would have converted it to a tractor,.. Fontenay-Saint-Pere King Tiger will be classified as a historic monument and May not be sold or given away is! 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